Voter Enthusiasm and My Trip Out West

My family and I took a huge road trip out West this past month. From our home in East Tennessee we went through Memphis, Arkansas, Oklahoma, the Texas Pandhandle, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, southeast Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, Missouri, southern Illinois, western Kentucky and back to Tennessee. It was a wonderful family trip and we saw tons of national parks along the way.

But I couldn't help also tracking bumper stickers and signs for the two candidates. Bumper stickers don't reveal preferences as much as they do enthusiasm. Here in East Tennessee John McCain will assuredly win over 65% of the vote, as Republicans always do. But I have yet to see a single McCain sticker or sign. Not one.

I figured that out closer to McCain's home state, or in the Mormon belt, I'd see more support for McCain. I didn't.

In fact, I saw a grand total of three McCain bumper stickers. One on a car with Virginia tags that said "Veterans for McCain." Ironically enough it was on I-40 West in Arizona. The second was on a beat-up van with Minnesota tags, alongside a Mitt Romney sticker. And the third was on a car with Kentucky tags at the hotel in Paducah. Not a single house sign.  Just three bumper stickers in 16 states - all but one of which voted for Bush in 2004.

So how about Obama? Sadly there are few Obama stickers here in East TN, but there are many more than there are for McCain. Out West, however, there were tons. Random cars passing along I-40 had Obama stickers. I saw about 50 in Santa Fe, a handful in Sedona, AZ (supposedly McCain's hometown, though nobody there could verify it and nobody cared either). About 20 in Bozeman, MT, three signs in Paducah, KY, a bunch in Yellowstone National Park, and about 80 in Salt Lake City of all places. I had no idea there were so many Democrats in Salt Lake City but apparently there are.

I couldn't help but remember back in the fall of 1994 when I visited my then girlfriend (now wife) in California and noticed all the creepy anti-government, right-wing signs popping up along farms. It was the height of the sagebrush rebellion. But now the West has turned blue. And Obama seems perfectly situated to capitalize on the reformer spirit of the West.

But another comparison I thought about was 2004. There were "W" stickers everywhere that Republicans lived. Even in Democratic areas, Bush voters proudly displayed their Bush signs and stickers. The enthusiasm for him among Republicans was open and obvious. I'll never forget canvassing for Kerry in Oak Creek, Wisconsin in a neighborhood where literally every other house had a Bush sign up. I couldn't believe Kerry ended up winning that state.

The contrast with this year is striking. I saw no evidence of enthusiasm for McCain. My brother-in-law's father - a diehard Republican - hates McCain and would seriously consider voting for Obama if only he had more experience. This guy was an actual Swift Boater who served with John Kerry and turned down a request to appear on one of those ads, not because he liked Kerry but because he didn't want to dredge up that stuff again. He lives in Colorado and sees evidence of Democratic revival everywhere there. He might leave the Presidential spot blank on the ballot.

Not surprisingly, the Obama signs were most prevalent in the college towns like Bozeman, or the "latte-sipping" enclaves like Santa Fe. But I also saw plenty along the highway in Wyoming, Nebraska and Idaho. The heavily Republican and Mormon towns in Utah, southern Idaho and southwestern Wyoming showed no evidence of a political race whatsoever.

I hadn't really traveled out West in several years. The mentality is much different than here in the South. I love living near the Smoky Mountains and within Southern Appalachian culture. But I found the West quite refreshing in many ways. Unlike Appalachia, where one is defined by ten generations of kinship ties, the West is a land where people redefine themselves on a regular basis. I think that Obama's earnest self-appraisal as evidenced in his memoir and in much of his message really resonates with Westerners. That was my surface observation at least.

Anyway, it was so nice being away from a computer for a month and only catching up on snippets of the news. The polls have hardly budged since mid-June, which, as far as I am concerned, is perfectly alright. The race has reached a sort of stasis where the media gropes for daily outrages and gaffes. But at the heart of this race are two very different voting bases: one committed and the other deflated and apathetic. Remember that as much as we gripe about Obama, it's nothing compared to the Right and McCain.

Is there anywhere in America where support for McCain is anything on the level of support for Bush in 2004? If not here in the Republican South, or in the Republican West, then where?



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McCain couldn't carry the 2004 (none / 0)

Bush's bags as a political candidate.  Say what you will about the guy, but in 2004, Bush was one talented politician.  Bush really could connect with blue-collar folks, a skill that McCain desperate lacks if you look at the empathy categories (e.g. shares my values, cares about people, understands my problems) where McCain is lagging behind Obama of all people by double digits.

McCain has no base at all; he may even be performing worse among veterans against Obama than Bush did against Kerry.  He's hoping for some anti-Obama sentiment to develop in the American electorate that will allow him to generate the necessary turnout in the Big 3 states (Colorado, Ohio, and Virginia) to at least with the electoral college while losing the popular vote by around 2%.


by Blazers Edge on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:36:07 AM EST

Re: McCain couldn't carry the 2004 (none / 0)

I think you may be right. McCain is trying to play the "safe" candidate and win by default. But to do that you need to go on the attack and make Obama a dangerous choice. McCain won't do that and when his surrogates go that route McCain chastises them.

To put it a crude way, the Republican Party is the party of assholes. When their own candidate suppresses their inner psychological asshole, they get depressed. Bush was perfect for Republicans because he was such an asshole and would throw sleaze with impunity.


by elrod on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:50:09 AM EST
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I disagree with you (none / 0)

to the extent that you are claiming that McCain isn't an asshole.  The guy is a total prick, as evidenced by his earlier statement about Obama and Hamas.  McCain is a career politician, he'll get dirty.  He did against Mitt Romney and he won't hold his ammunition against Obama.


by Blazers Edge on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50 AM EST
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I'm not a fan of Romney (none / 0)

but I thought what he did against him in the Florida debates was utterly disgusting. He completely lied and fabricated everything while standing there with that evil smirk on his face.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:58:07 AM EST
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Re: Voter Enthusiasm and My Trip Out West (none / 0)


The past 10 years of polling the Mountain and Great Basin and Pacific Coast states shows a 1% per year clockwork shift towards Democrats.  This year the split predicts to 48/47 iirc.

When a state or region gets to about 48% Democratic  the partisan politics get unstable for a couple of years.  At ~53% Democratic there's a regaining of stability and a kind of political 'culture shift' happens that is apparently permanent.

For the other stuff...conservative white people in the South and a lot of the Midwest knew that Bush & Co was all about themselves and their region in '00 and '04.  And it was indeed so.  (And it was such a horror and obscenity that I hope to never see any more of it.)

Obama does best in the Upper Midwest to Pacific Northwest, and the Black Belt- people in those regions think he's all about people like themselves.

McCain...well, people say he's a Westerner and make up that he's somehow incredibly formidable in Arizona.  To me he's a person from a generation in the West, which includes people like Sandra Day O'Connor and Orrin Hatch, that doesn't really exist anymore.  Not much of the very white and fairly agrarian West they lived most of their adult lives remains, their generation is also disappearing.  Rather a fitting image for the 2008 GOP....


by killjoy on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:15:16 AM EST

not out here (none / 0)

A new California Field Poll just came out on Wednesday:

Obama- 54%
McCain- 30%

Obama leads 2:1 among female voters;  
Obama leads among older voters;
Obama leads 6:1 in the Bay Area and 61%-27% in Los Angeles;
Former Clinton Supporters: Obama- 80%, McCain-8%;
Latinos: Obama- 64%, McCain- 21%;
Asians: Obama- 59%, McCain- 23%;
Very Enthusiastic Supporters: Obama- 51%, McCain- 17%.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg i?f=/c/a/2008/07/15/MN2T11PHGD.DTL


Our Moment Is Now
by mboehm on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:57:26 AM EST

Re: Voter Enthusiasm and My Trip Out West (none / 0)

In southeastern Michigan the Obama stickers are popping up everywhere and it seems to be accelerating -- and remember these can't be vestiges of the primary wars.  Oddly enough, the white drivers vastly outnumber the black drivers.  

Only lawn signs I've seen have been in Ann Arbor -- surprised?

I've seen two McCain stickers and one lawn sign and I'm on the road everyday for the entire day, and usually in heavily GOP neighborhoods. (don't ask) They haven't even caught up to the embarrassment of the sun-faded "W"s and "Sportsmen for Bush" you still see on rare occasions.  

As a matter of fact, while Obama flare is becoming more and more part of the landscape, spotting a McCain anything is still an event, but then I don't get to the country club much or out to Mittens land on the west side of the state.

Either McCain is way behind in the ground game or his supporters can't muster the energy to peel and stick.  Either way, good for us.


Sexism is real.
by grassrootsorganizer on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:39:51 AM EST

It's interesting how reluctant Dems are (none / 0)

to buy into (I would say "understand") the point you are making.

McCain. Stands. No. Chance. (short of some bizarre occurence, or catastrophic cockiness by the Dem voters)

o  Who out there is "Excited about McCain!"?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Is this thing on?

o  The GOP leadership is openly lamenting their own demise.  Right Wing Radio can't stay on-topic criticizing Obama long enough to make a point without interjecting how disappointing McCain is.

o  The international community hated Bush but could do no better than sorrowfully roll their eyes over Kerry.  They are openly giddy about Obama and don't mention McCain other than to mention that they aren't mentioning him.

There is a Summer Hiatus (and post-primary fatigue) right now with the whole election process.  But picture if you will:

Democratic Convention.  Rousing speeches, enthusiastic throngs, Super Bowl coverage.

Republican Convention.  Lackluster speakers standing on the very spot Obama gave a pivotal speech (and every commentator comparing the two events), forced, desparate enthusiasm, funereal coverage.

Oh, and while we were the only Obama bumper-sticker here (Sarasota) in January, they are quite common now.  Don't think I've seen a McCain sticker, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

-chris


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 10:40:10 AM EST

Re: Voter Enthusiasm and My Trip Out West (none / 0)

I think it's worth remembering that the GOP had their own fractious primary wars and their are still more than a few wounded Mittenites and Holy Rollers for Huckabee out there licking their paws.

With all this PUMA talk, we tend to forget the Republicans who'll just stay home or at the very least sit on their hands until election day.


Sexism is real.
by grassrootsorganizer on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 11:29:10 AM EST


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